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RE: [Butler Island] New tax assessment


  • From: "Lyons, Mike" <mike_lyons@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:04:50 -0400
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  • Thread-topic: [Butler Island] New tax assessment

Ed;
 
Thanks for the detailed explanation!  Matt Hayes mentioned that the rate "may" (can never tell what gov will do or not do) be adjusted down to compensate.  You are probably right, that the value of your camp would be higher on the mainland thus raising your taxes.
 
I know your idea of succeeding to another town has been kicked around over the last few years but I'm not sure how serious.  I certainly would be interested in investigating this.  Not knowing much about taxation, changing towns, and law, I'd imagine that it's not certain we could be successful. With 70 camps on the island though, if the rate of the other towns was lower (which I'm sure it is) each person's investment could pay for itself the next tax year.  Also, to do this is voting involved where you have to be a resident?  I'm not and I'm not sure of the ratio on the island.  As far as a lawyer, (and one who's feeling this personally) Tim Hurlbut is a lawyer in St' Albans who's got a camp on the west side. I don't know if this area is something his practice can handle, but if not, perhaps he knows a firm which can.
 
Even with these questions, I'm very supportive of finding an alternative.  When I built my camp I had notions of turning it over to my kids and taxes was never a concern.   It had been the case that to make the tax payment I just had to collect the coinage under the sofa cushions, in my car ash tray and the change basket in the bed room, and probably had some left over.  NOW I feel like taking going over to North Hero harbor and throwing all their tea into the lake!
 
Regards
Mike
 
 
 
 


From: EWHAASE@xxxxxxx [mailto:EWHAASE@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 5:27 AM
To: Lyons, Mike; list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Butler Island] New tax assessment

Mike -
 
My assessment more than doubled as well.  That alone, however, does not necessarily mean the taxes will double.  When the entire town is reassessed, if everyone's assessment went up the same amount, no one would see a change in their property tax bill.  The town will simply adjust the tax rate so that they receive the same amount of tax revenues on a property list that is much more valuable. 
 
Towns are not supposed to make money on a reassessment.  The state requires them to value the properties at fair market value.  Each year the property sales are sampled and based on the difference between the listed value and the current history of sales (in that town), the town is supposed to apply that increase to their entire list of properties in town and adjust the tax rate accordingly.  I know that my assessed value has not changed in many years.  I do think, however, that I could sell my property for what the new value is.  Perhaps a bit more.
 
My concern is that the rest of North Hero did not increase in value as much as the B.I. properties.  We are planning on speaking to the board about a problem in our assessment, but I don't really expect much of a change from that.
 
It is really unfortunate that B.I. is attached to North Hero and not St Albans.  North Hero is a "gold town" (lots of property value, few kids to educate)  so the tax rate is much higher as we share heavily in the cost of education with property-value poor towns.  And, the non-resident (vacation home) rate is higher than the regular rate (state-wide) so we get whacked hard.
 
When you remind the board that we receive no town services (except for being able to park for the weekend at the town hall - give me a break!) they say that is reflected in the value of our property.  I tend to agree with them as I know my property would sell for more if it were on the mainland.  I personally think that it being on an island makes it more desireable, but many people do not.
 
What to do?  I really don't know.  But I do know that we would be better off being part of St Albans or Swanton or even White River Junction.  Anyone know a good lawyer willing to take this one on?
 
Ed Haase